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How rubbish is the christmas coke advert?!
It doesn't have the 'holidays are coming, holidays are coming... always coca cola!' or the flashing train with santa on the back :cry:
I think it's shocking that they've dropped the lorry/train advert and are showing that new c**p instead! I even said so all the way back here;
http://www.aat.org.uk/forums/posts/list/13347.page
Christmas is ruined now... :cry:
Regards,
Robert
phunkyphantom22
21-12-06, 12:54
I agree!
I've always said it's not officially crimbo until you hear 'holidays are coming' on your tv!
This year's one is shocking!
yes that gives me the xmas feeling when i see that advert! it definatly needs the little jingle! :lol:
Baggybooks
21-12-06, 13:02
And you know it's nearly New Year when the 'give up smoking' ads appear. That's seasonal for you!
:cry:
Depresses me how the holiday ads start showing at about one nanosecond past midnight on the 25th. They can't even wait for Santa to get back to his crypt, before the buggers start chasing our summer money!
Oh and those DFS adverts selling off three grand sofas for fifty pence using their mega-quadruple-fantasmical discount schemes! We're not stupid. We know they're not selling at a loss! And do you think they lock their employees up in the stores over the Christmas period?
Robert
Baggybooks
21-12-06, 13:11
Don't talk to me about DFS. I moved in December 2001 and wanted a new suite in time for Christmas...just like the advert said.
Yes, I had the suite - plus nails sticking out and worn fabric.
The manager said the faults would be rectified blah, blah, blah.
I held out for a new one and was told no deal. I traced their Chief Executive and his direct line fax...sorted!
How about those adverts on ITV2 advertising xmas hampers for 2007!
You are kidding me, surely??? :shock:
Some companies have no sense of timing!
Does come across as a bit like selling package holidays to Iraq doesn't it?!
Anyway, have you ordered yours yet Steve? And what do super top accountants like yourself do for Christmas compared to us mere mortals down in the pits? :cry:
Robert
If it were up to me Robert, I would introduce legislation to ban those adverts as well as those that advertise personal loans on ITV 2 - how cheesy are they?!
I wouldn't say you were all mere mortals down the pits! I reckon we're all top accountants!
I'm clearing my desk now as I finish today till the 2nd Jan then I'm going to the pub for the first of many pints of lager that will see me through the festive season and most probably into the Priory Clinic come January!! Only joking!
What's the rest of you got planned?
Ste
X5wrangler
21-12-06, 19:40
Hi Steve,
I'm in work tomorrow and will probably be out delivering parcels, don't mind that, people like receiving parcels this time of year. :lol: My christmas goes like this:
Christmas Eve - sister in law and dogs
Christmas Day - my parents and son (he is in the RAF so lovely to have him home)
Boxing Day - Mother -in -law and dogs
27th - me, the husband and dog... then....
back to work :evil:
I'm sure I will be doing what most people are doing and that's catching up on the family, eating far to much and drinking far too much, I just have to fit it into 4 days!
Happy Christmas
Mandy
Holidays are coming, holidays are coming *jigs away*
The holidays may well have gone now, but I'm going to write to Coca Cola complaining about that dire new dull-as-Hell ad! Just for the buggeration value if nothing else!
Let's hope they'll reinstate it for next Christmas!
Robert
Haha good for you! My boyfriend and some friends were threatening to complain too but I think they were too scared!
Good luck!
Gem
imported_Malcolm
05-01-07, 13:43
May I add my tuppence worth?
Yes, bring back the 'holidays' Coke ad.
Why do sofa companies, MFI and the like show their products in gigantic rooms where the average living room/kitchen is probably half the size?
Also, in DFS type ads, when I go to these places, I am usually wearing my coat or a jacket; they never wear coats in the ads when showrooms are shown.
Other ads that annoy me are the ones in the New Year that advertise partworks, you know, those fortnightly magazines with a thing stuck on the cover, like a crystal or die-cast character.
Bad taste ad scheduling includes the kids' digital TV channels, which are now showing loans and debt counselling services etc etc.
Dont start me on those finance adverts
"I want an interest rate that suits me"
"Im retired where do I go for a loan"
Should be
"Do these people really think that Im stupid enough to think they will loan me money out of the goodness of their hearts, just to help me out"
And my favourite one of all are the phonecalls which start with
"Hi, would you be interested in having us reduce your monthly outgoings"
If only things were that simple!
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 13:51
Oh I hate those debt consolidation ads - I think they are very cruel!
I noticed during my study leave that there are loads of them played during daytime TV - obviously targeting those who may be out of work and struggling with their finances.
It's the way they promise to solve all your problems and make your life so much better that annoys me! If you take a proper look, they charge about 25% interest and let you borrow over about 25 years - imagine how much interest that is and how much more debt that is! They also encourage people to borrow more than they need for 'that holiday or new car you couldn't afford before'. Yes that's right - get yourself into even more debt - genius!
With so much personal debt in this country and bankruptcy on the rise, you'd think there would be more encouragement to help people get themselves sorted properly - not sick people taking advantage of the situation to make money! How do they sleep at night?!
You really have got to be sensible when it comes to your finances and resist some temptations - there's so much pressure to have a nice house, flash car, latest gadgets, the right clothes etc.
When people bought their first home they scrimped and saved to get that deposit and took hand-me-downs and second hand furniture to get started - now it's all 100% mortgages, credit on new sofas etc etc.
I know sometimes people get into debt through no fault of their own and I can see why it happens to many people because it is so easy to borrow, but ads like these don't really help do they!!
Rant over...
Did you see the ever so cheesy Gilette Fusion ad in the run-up to Xmas with the Dad and Son? I love the way the Dad picks up the razor box and nods his head with a big cheesy grin! So funny!
Baggybooks
05-01-07, 14:08
Just had the same conversation with someone at work!
When I bought my first flat I had to take on a 2nd job to save the deposit.
I had no washing machine or suite etc. In fact, all I had was what I was given or bought whilst still with my parents.
It took a while to get myself established, but I did it without any 'finance deals'.
Does anyone save up for their luxury items any more? I don't think so!
Helen
Can i just add my bit?
Although i havent bought my flat, and have just started renting, after getting myslef into some money trouble i have managed to get myself out of debt paid the deposit on my flat and am now quite well established in my own little home without the help of a loan or finance company! All of my stuff at home is what i have been given by my mum or family from what they used to have so i have been quite lucky, although i do get your point that a lot of people are taking wht they think is the 'easy' option!
Just wish people would realise that it is possible to get the things you want with a little hard work and saving! I have only just turned 19 and although i am not complaining because i feel ucky to be wher i am i do not go out on nights out anymore like i used to and save if there is anything i want which doesnt bother me i am perfectly happy kowing that i am independant and have managed it on my own!
Sorry phunky, but how exactly do people get into debt "through no fault of their own"?
To me it's quite simple, the core of it is, if you spend more than you earn then it is entirely your fault. I mean, does it really ruin Christmas if your kids don't all get DS'es and a hundred games?
I had to do two jobs for three years to sort myself out following my divorce. When others were settling down for their weekends, I was out delivering pizzas in the dead of night in the dead of winter. It was my debt, my problem.
Some people want to spend freely but just don't want the hard work to fund it.
See what dropping the Coke ad has all made us do now!
Robert
Baggybooks
05-01-07, 14:56
Most of us seem pretty sorted and sensible about this - is that because of our jobs?
Or do we do this kind of work because we are sensible and sorted?
Need more caffeine.
AAT Member
05-01-07, 15:08
In defense of the under-25s, some of us do save and plan in advance- I personally have been putting aside a couple of hundred pounds per month for nearly three years- putting some in ISAs, buying my new car and generally preparing for the future. I will be taking out a student loan this Autumn, but I have no intention of running up overdrafts or massive credit card bills.
Having said that, many of my colleagues have fallen into thinking that credit cards with 0% interest for the first few months are "free money". It's part of a general "live every day as if it were your last" mentality that seems increasingly common lately; not accepting that actions (borrowing) have consequences (repayment).
I get more cynical with every passing day.
I think soon I may have to live in a barrel.
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 15:09
It's good to know that there are people out there who do realise if you want things you have to work for it and save, rather than take the easy option.
There are just too many people who do take the easier option and have a 'have it all now, worry about it later' attitude, which gets them into trouble.
True, your own debt is your own problem and your own responsibility. However banks, loan companies etc make it all too tempting and easy to take out more credit and get more into debt - I think it is irresponsible of them and not helping something which is now a national problem. Yes people mainly do get into debt by being silly with their money, but I'm sure you'll find most of them regret it and want to get back on track - is it right of the banks etc to exploit them to make a bit of extra money?
Robert - I agree, most people are wholly responsible when it comes to personal debt, but I just meant I appreciate that sometimes there are situations when someone has found themselves in debt due to unfortunate circumstances i.e. somehow they've been screwed over by someone else and left to clean up the mess - I just didn't want to upset anyone on the forum! :-)
Baggybooks
05-01-07, 15:12
Doesn't this just prove my point - we are the responsible ones - whatever our ages!
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 15:17
There are sensible responsible people and silly people at all ages.
I've heard stories of people in their 40's going bankrupt because they've racked up so much personal debt and stories about people in their 20's in lots of debt too.
I think the majority of the nations personal debts lies only with the younger ages purely because of factors such as going to university, buying your first car, buying your first home etc.
A lot of older people are married/partnered and have 2 incomes coming in, whereas younger people are more likely to be single and surviving on their income alone.
I think it is unfair for newspapers etc. to label the younger age groups irresponsible due to them having the most debts, when it's obvious they will because of all the factors mentioned before.
X5wrangler
05-01-07, 15:18
I am a great believer in self worth and self respect. I have worked ever since I left school, (many many years ago)and if I can't afford it, I don't buy it. The banks keep sending me credit cards with ridiculous credit limits and offering me overdrafts that could buy a small island and I can actually say NO!!! I do think working in a finance environment at work follows through into my personal life.
Sorry phunky, but how exactly do people get into debt "through no fault of their own"?
A persons spouse can take a loan on without the other person knowing until the debt has got out of hand, I know of a situation where that happened.
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 15:22
Exactly my point - I know businesses have to make their money, but I believe it is wrong to send out all these credit card and loan offers etc because they know there are people out there who will give in to the temptation and get themselves into trouble.
They don't care - they are happy for you to get into more debt as it means they make more interest!
It should be that they are not allowed to advertise loans/credit cards, but that there is somewhere (unbiased with info on interest rates etc) for consumers to go if they decided themselves that they want to get credit.
Nah, I wasn't having a pop Phunky, so don't worry about that. :) And yes Paul, I'm sure there are examples of the kind you mentioned, but they're going to be few and far between and I was speaking generally.
Yes, numerous credit cards and loans are be thrown at all of us, but it's only the stupidly irresponsible who take them all on with no means of repaying them.
But as I hinted at earlier, some people only want to work one job, 9 to 5, and don't even try to address their debts. They're the ones who do my bloody head in when they constantly whinge about it. And I know this may be offensive to some, but this is the same mentality that obese people possess. People who cannot accept responsibility for their own actions and look for others to blame and bale them out.
Regards,
Robert
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 16:16
Robert - no worries, I didn't think you were having a pop anyway!
Yes it's true - you've got to be responsible for your own debt and have the sense to ignore the "great offers" and temptations.
It's just it's such a huge nationwide problem now, that I don't think the banks and loan companies should be allowed to try and tempt people into more debt.
Nothing like a little light-hearted debate for a Friday afternoon, he he! :-)
Baggybooks
05-01-07, 16:21
but this is the same mentality that obese people possess. Robert
Nothing 'light'-hearted about this debate.
Quite agree with all you've said, Robert.
Too many people are irresponsible and it's people like us that ARE baling them out.
:wink:
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 16:29
Sorry, was being a little sarcastic in a jokey way there! :-)
That does annoy me aswell - I appreciate it is hard to lose weight and you must take time and do it slowly and healthily, but people who moan about being overweight and then don't do any excercise and stuff their face with cake etc. are annoying!
True to the debt thing too - stop wasting time moaning and do something about it!
I know - it's good that there is help out there for people, but too many people are seeing bankruptcy as an easy way out now. There's a "live it up and spend loads, then just declare yourself bankrupt and start afresh" mentality which is just silly!
You'd think that as bankruptcy and IVA's are on the rise, lenders would be less willing to lend as much as they may not get it all back. I suppose that's all in your credit risk scoring and stuff though isn't it. Still - I think it should be stricter and it could help people stop getting in trouble in the first place.
I'd like to congratulate the person who invests in ISAs every year. Well done! Everybody should have an ISA! Get as much from the government as you can :wink: and most ISA's are paying about 5% now which is not bad at all. These will probably be going up again soon.
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 17:01
I'd like to congratulate the person who invests in ISAs every year. Well done! Everybody should have an ISA! Get as much from the government as you can :wink: and most ISA's are paying about 5% now which is not bad at all. These will probably be going up again soon.
Too right, he he!
I too save in an ISA - that's my wedding fund!
As a rule, if you can, it's sensible to save 10-20% of your monthly salary.
Baggybooks
05-01-07, 17:18
I'm into ISAs too. I hate taking risks with my money, but I've dabbled in a stocks and shares one, and the return has been excellent.
Any tax free saving plan has to be worth a look.
AAT Member
05-01-07, 17:54
I think the remarks about obese people are insensitive and ill informed. Obesity is frequently the outward symptom of hypothyroidism or an underlying emotional problem. There are are number of diseases that impact on metabolism and casually dismissing people who have real health problems and grouping them all as having a specific mentality is apalling. Some obese people are ill, some are trying very hard to improve their health, and some don't care. There is not a typical mental attitude.
It is also a fact that I have read that less than 5% of obesity is caused by illness, however I can understand why it is so hard for some people to stop eating, as I find it difficult to stop smoking.
phunkyphantom22
05-01-07, 18:00
I wasn't meaning to offend anyone - I understand obesity can be an illness and sometimes people are overweight through ill health.
If you re-read my comments, I was actually referring to peope who are just overweight and just moan and don't do anything about it. I was not implying that about people who have weight issues from ill health.
AAT Member
05-01-07, 18:08
It wasn't your remark that offended me. You are always the voice of reason.
It wasn't your remark that offended me. You are always the voice of reason.
Therefore, I assume by implication that I am not?
At least have the moral courage to log in properly and show your real name if you wish to discuss this. I am not an apologist - there are unfortunately too many of those in the country at the moment which is why we are in the state we are in. If you eat too much and don't do any exercise, you are going to get fat. FACT.
I too have had my problems in the past - traumatic divorce and losing my children - however I didn't choose to overeat and cause myself further mental health problems.
Robert
bluewednesday
06-01-07, 09:51
I wish I had your resolve Robert, unfortunately I love my food too much!
I put my hands up, I'm one of those who's not happy about my weight but know that I eat too much and the wrong things!! No ones fault but my own.
Aren't hypothyroid conditions are treatable so wouldn't cause permanent weight gain?
:oops: Annette
I would imagine it is treatable. My brother has hyperthyroidism which he receives treatment for to prevent him from losing too much weight.
If only I could be so lucky :roll: :D
Baggybooks
06-01-07, 13:02
I belong to a running club (although I would never call myself a runner!) and it's great for helping control weight and improve fitness.
By joining a club, I received excellent advice about correct shoes, building stamina etc.
Now, I eat what I like - but I do run 3/4 times a week, usually 5 miles each.
NB running in trainers will knacker your joints, always buy appropriate shoes - some specialist shops will fit them, based on your running style.
Running is a great way to meet 'real' people. It's hard to put on a front when you're out running in the pouring rain, it's freezing cold and you could eat a horse.
It doesn't help reduce personal debt - but while you're running, you're not spending!
:wink:
Helen
Does anyone know of any ladies netball clubs/teams in or around exeter? I've been trying to join my town team but the captain is being really unhelpful.
Any help much appreciated :D
Gem
Personal Debt... how much do I have?... jees not worth thinking about - I have o/s mortgage but that doesn't count in my eyes, it's more of an investment than loan to me.
I do have a bank loan though - a massive £1,200 and I have an interest free overderaft of £250.00
I had to get a bank loan as I had to send my original car back as I couldn't afford to keep it, Clio Sport new reg plate and vandals kept breaking windows and scrathcing it so insurance wen through the roof.
Now i'm 22, own the car out right, have £1200 of a loan to repay (which finishes in November I believe) then i'm straight - with the new job I can afford not to be tempted with the credit cards that come through the door... I had another one this morning - I don't do credit cards, as my dear mum always said "If you can't afford it, you can't have it"
Oh - and bring back the original Cocal Cola 'Holidays are comin'' advert!
I smell an online petition cookin'
I've read the whole of this thread and find the comments made quite interesting.
I loathe banks/credit card companies etc that seem to find it socially acceptable to encourage some people to borrow money, knowing full well there is a huge risk they won't be able to pay it back which will ultimately wreck some individual's lives. For instance, why encourage you to borrow 5 times your annual income to buy a house or rack up thousands of pounds on credit cards?
Years ago I worked for a mortgage intermediary. They encouraged you to take out a mortgage and an associated life insurance policy (it was in the days when endowment policies were the way forward!) The company I worked for received commissions for arranging the life policies but when the individual started to pay the premiums and found out just how expensive they were, they cancelled them. As the company I worked for had their commission clawed back if someone cancelled, we had to write to them and threaten to sue them. I walked out when I spoke to a young woman who was in tears because she literally, couldn't keep up the repayments.
Unfortunately, some years on it now appears that the financial services industry is getting more ruthless week by week and is targeting those individuals who are not in a position where they can afford to meet the debt. I think legislation should be brought in to assert more control over these types of industries and make the institutions more responsible in who they lend money to and introduce more stringent procedures to ensure the individual can repay the debt.
kind regards
Steve
Working in a bank one of my duties is to develop leads and create sales. I find customers get more upset with me if they are turned down for a credit card or loan!
The company I work with are very good at declining applications, or offer the customer a huge interest rate which they know they won't accept. Our policy is that we cannot sell a product to a customer which they do not require.
Many of our customers find it difficult to accept that we do not work on commission. I get nothing for completing sales, it's simply more work for me to do. If I sell a product it is because I think it's right for the customer.
This may explain why I'm awful at selling loans and credit cards though! I tend to deal with current accounts and savings. Things that don't get people into trouble :)
AAT Member
08-01-07, 10:16
I have been away for a few days and wish to reply to Blobby. My name is Claire Sullivan, I am obese, I have hyperthyroidism, I am unable to take thyroxine as I also have other health issues. I go to a gym 5 times a week. I eat on average 1500 calories a day. I measure every spoonful of food that passes my lips, and this is to only to maintain my current weight without putting on any more. I am not in debt, I do not lack moral courage and I think your attitude deplorable and insulting.
phunkyphantom22
08-01-07, 11:36
I don't think anyone was trying to offend anyone else here - the comments made were merely about people who are overweight and constantly moan about it, but do nothing to try and lose weight, that was all.
No-one was trying to insult anyone who has weight issues due to actual health problems.
The same with those in a lot of debt, people who moan about it but don't do themselves any favours by borrowing more, not doing anything about repaying etc.
Baggybooks
08-01-07, 11:52
I agree with Phunky, but if anything has offended another member, then I apologise.
Helen
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