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I started my AAT Accounting course in September.<BR>Has anyone else experienced the poor quality of the teaching staff?<BR>I have my first exam on November 25th which is 3 weeks away, we have only just gone through the debit and credit side of things, (and got my head round that) We got a practise exam paper last thursday no one has even gone through and told us what the words mean such as Sales Ledger, Trail Balance, <BR><BR>We have had one lesson of Profit and Loss and most of that was him writing numbers on the board and not explaining what they were or why you would put them there.<BR><BR>One lesson on Petty Cash (1 hour lessons) <BR><BR>When you ask the tutor for help he just tells me "you will be fine in your exam dont worry about it" <BR><BR>Or when he writes something on the board like profit and loss he turns and says easy isnt it, erm yes when you have worked in accounts for 10 years !!<BR>I have never worked in accounts before these words are like a foreign language to me !!! <BR><BR>All i want to do is pass my exams but i feel i wont with the poor attitude of tutors and the lack of help when asking for it!<BR>
That doesnt sound good - your exam on the 25th, are you sure its not your simulation? the central exams are the week commencing 28 November and i believe (thanks Amanda!) that the PLB exam is on the tuesday (30th nov).<BR>If you are getting stuck - ASK YOUR TUTOR!!! You are paying him money to teach you, ask questions in class, even the daft questions - it only takes one person to pipe up in class and then lo and behold - theirs a discussion!<BR>If you are getting stuck on things, why not join Amandas group? the address is http://groups.msn.com/AATFoundation<BR>We have all been their, at least those of us who dont work in accounts, so i totally understand where you are coming from - i am the woman who pipes up with the daft questions!!<BR>Katherine
I cant say much more than Katherine has already said!<BR><BR>Check with your tutor if its the exam you are doing or a skills test! It might be your 1st Skills Test. The exam is Tuesday 30th November at 2pm for everyone doing Foundation exam. I do think its early for your exam if you have just started in September!! I have a feeling its your skills test and you will take the exam in June next year!! Another way you should know is if you have just paid £29 to AAT and have a confirmation of your exam date back!!!!!<BR><BR>Your more than welcome to join my group,<BR><BR>http://groups.msn.com/aatfoundation <BR><BR>I have documents on there to help with Debit and credits. There is also practise Skills Tests (Sims) and Practise Exams.<BR><BR>Chat nights are Thursday Nights so come along and chat away about your problems.<BR><BR>I wouldnt worry as I really think you are doing a Skills Test, If you are doing the exam, then join my group and post every question possible and we will have a crash course for Trail Balance and Sales / Purchase Ledger!!!
Hi,<BR><BR>We have been told that it is our exam on the 25th November, What are simulations anyway ?? never heard of them !!<BR><BR>Thanks for your help Katherine,
Hi,<BR><BR>Ok first silly question, when is the first actual big exam then ??<BR><BR>Second.. What are simualtions and how important are they ?<BR><BR>What time normally does your chat group end as i have college on a Thursday?<BR><BR>In the foundation stage is everyone getting tons of homework, with it been half term i have been given about 5 hours homework is that what everyone gets??<BR>We get homework twice a week every week about 2 hours each just thought that was rather alot really but if thats what happens thats fine. <BR><BR>I havent paid anything to the AAT but i paid it all up front at the start of the course with books and exams included, but i havent had anything back from the AAT saying my exam is on such and such a date. <BR><BR>Thankyou for all the advice given to me its fab ! :)
Ok, there goes!!<BR><BR>The first BIG exam - you mean the Central Exam is either in Dec or June!! (Although its in November this year!!)<BR><BR>If you havent had confirmation from AAT then I would have thought you wont be doing the BIG exam yet!!!<BR><BR>Depending on your cirumstances you might have to do Skills Tests also known as Simulations and Sims. If you do not do a particlar part of Accounting at work then you do a Skills Test. (I work in Accounting but i am doing all the Skills Tests) The Skills Test is like an Exam! You are given a question book and an answer book. You have 3 hours in which to complete the tasks!! You take these under exam conditions!!<BR><BR>On my group is practise Simulations and Exams! You can print off the questions and answer books and answers!!<BR><BR>Look at the practise paper you have been given, does it have a answer book or spaces to write answers as you read each question!!<BR><BR>If you get an Answer book, then its a Skills Test<BR>If you get spaces to write in as you read the quesion then its likely to be an exam!!<BR><BR>The chat night will go on as long as people are in there!! I (as manager of the group!) will most likely be in there most of the night, maybe as late as 11pm.<BR><BR>If you want come into the chat room later and we can chat about the practise paper you have and try and decide if you have a skills test or a exam!!<BR><BR>Which books do you study from, or is it all college?<BR><BR>I study via home study therefore I can not comment on the amount of homework etc you are getting. I study at own pace!! <BR><BR>Hope to see you later in the Chat Room!! <BR><BR>PS you need to join the group first!!
hi, <BR><BR>We have been told that our "exam" is 2 hours long with 15 minutes reading time, and thats all we have been told. <BR><BR>I will defiantly join and be in the chat night thankyou very much :) <BR><BR>The books we work with are called "Foundation Accounting Second Edition Workbook for NVQ Accounting units 1 to 4 and we have a Tutorial book the same. <BR><BR>The practise exam we were giving does not have spaces to write in anything he told us we will be given a few sheets of plain paper to write on. <BR><BR>I just feel its not long enough to even start thinking about an exam. 1 lesson on this and 1 lesson on that. :(
Morning<BR>I really think you need to ask your tutor what is going on! Which unit are you actually studying at the moment? It will be either 1 or 2 or 3 or 4 - it seems very haphazard to be learning everything at once - you cant run before you can walk as they say. It definately sounds like you are going to be doing a simulation - its the week before any BIG exams. They are important exams though, dont get me wrong - you need to be able to prove that you understand the unit that you have studied, so that you can complete your unit portfolio, and so pass your Foundation year. Has it been explained that you will have up to 7 portfolios to complete this year? Units 1-4, 21-23 inclusive. I think this is why you are getting lots of homework as the earlier you start the portfolios the better.<BR><BR>Hope this helps - will try and pop in to speak later on http://groups.msn.com/AATFoundation<BR><BR>Katherine
I think you might find that this is an internal college exam to prepare you for your Skills Tests!! I think you will find if you get anything wrong it wont affect your AAT.<BR><BR>As its 2 hours long, Is your lessons 2 hours? or are you going in special for the exam?<BR><BR>All Skills Tests are 3 Hours + 15 mins Reading! and so is the exam. I think if you are doing this in 2 hours and only have plain paper to write on I would think it would be an internal exam!<BR><BR>When you join the group, Check out the Study Documents and see if they are like yours in any way!! This might give you an idea if they are Skills Tests or not.<BR><BR>Thinking back I did an Assignment that suppose to take 2 hours! But I thought it was my college own doing, which was on plain paper!! I bet its an assignment you are doing!!<BR><BR>Chill out, relex I dont think you have anything to worry about!!<BR><BR>In the mean time, any questions on there you dont under stand then let me know and I will do my best!!
Hi<BR>Yes my lessons are 2 hours long, and the exam that we are doing is on a normal evening class. <BR><BR>Is profit and loss difficult to do ? thats one of the things i am worried about. <BR>Thankyou for your help/support Amanda its great.<BR><BR>
<BR>Hi <BR><BR>I think we are learning level 2 at the moment, but each week we start with something new, thats why my head doesnt get round things cause we do something new every week ! <BR><BR>Our tutor told us we will only be doing 1 porfolio not 7 !!! lots of work then if we need to do that many !!! <BR><BR>Thanks Katherine for your help will hopefully speak to you later on. <BR><BR>
can you go on hotmail? i am online now - the address is katie21872@hotmail.com
I know the feeling I started my course in July and my first is next month as well and what I find confusing is the trial balance. My tutor is exactly the same as yours, all I get out of him is "you'll be fine, Don't worry, I'll give you a couple of past papers to do and you'll be ok" It really gets on my nerves, they should be more supportive and helpful
Hi adelem<BR><BR>It seems your college have told you nothing of how the AAT scheme is structered, some students tend to think that just enrolling for an accountancy course is enough and dont tend to think of what else is involved to actually get the qualification. Have a look in the 'Resource Centre' of this website and you can download a document called 'The Guide' which is a general guide to the AAT scheme.<BR><BR>With regards to your exam, it sounds like its not actually an exam. All AAT exams are 3 hours plus 15 minutes reading time and have to be taken a times set by the AAT, not your usual college time. The AAT has 2 types of assessments, Exams and Skill Tests. The skills tests are used to provide work place competence. If you cant provide evidence from your workplace you can do a simulation. Check out 'The Guide' as this is basically explained in there. Also, if you are doing level 2 (Foundation stage) a profit and loss account shouldnt be that important at this stage, it only becomes a real issue at intermediate stage.<BR><BR>Check that your college has enrolled you with the AAT. It sounds like they haven't, if you were enrolled with the AAT you will be receiving copies of the Accounting Technician Magazine, student guides and various other information including Exam Entry Instructions.<BR><BR>Id also raise the issue with the college. Talk to the others on your course and see how they feel.<BR><BR>Neil
<br><br><< <i>I know the feeling I started my course in July and my first is next month as well and what I find confusing is the trial balance. My tutor is exactly the same as yours, all I get out of him is "you'll be fine, Don't worry, I'll give you a couple of past papers to do and you'll be ok" It really gets on my nerves, they should be more supportive and helpful</i> >><br><br>
I started my collage in october and our first exam in dec you posted some pratice papers where can i find out about these they say you can also download can anyone help
Hi <BR><BR>Had a word with my tutor on Thursday, all i did was ask for his help and say i think there is something wrong, i worked on a practise paper that he gave us, he goes through things so breifly they never sink in, so it took me 2 days of my work time and 6 hours at home just to get my head round things, When i spoke up at break time in Thursday's lesson (with pupils still in class) he just started shouting at me, saying "have i read my notes" yep read everything he gave me, basically laughed in my face and told me he doesnt have time to help me he goes at one speed and thats it, if i cant keep up thats my fault !!!!<BR><BR>I am paying nearly £500 for this !!!!!!!!!!!!! <BR><BR>Practise papers can found here http://groups.msn.com/aatfoundation <BR><BR>You get alot of help there i wouldnt have been able to even start my practise paper with logging on to this site. :)
BUT...<BR><BR>We are not just doing debit and credits we are doing Profit and Loss accounts <BR>Cash books, reconcilling accounts, posting to Ledger, petty cash<BR><BR>Are you doing these things or is it i just have the worst tutor in the world ?????
Hi<BR><BR>Id seriously consider taking up fromal complaint with the college. True he can really only go at one speed in class but refusing to help where you need it and the attitude he has displayed is disgusting! He's your tutor and he is there to help! Im more than happy to telephone him for you ;o)<BR><BR>If I read your previosu post correctly, youre doing AAT Foundation/NVQ Level 2??? At this level you shouldnt really be covering much on the preparation of profit and loss accounts.
HI<BR><BR>I have made an appoinment with the Head of Department tomorrow at 4pm, i was nearly in tears when we were "having a argument" in class !!!! <BR>i just couldnt believe it....<BR><BR>I am working on level 2 this is the level we started at (dont ask me why)<BR>we have 2 tutors the one on the monday which is the nice one has decided that we are not only doing AAT but Pitmans aswell !!!!! so they will be words tonight......... i phsically cant do it !!!!! <BR><BR>its just too advanced for me all this extra stuff we are doing, i would be able to cope with debit/credits and Trial balance but not with all this other stuff aswell :(
I would like examples on the work evidence required by AAT .I have collected some but would like to check that the qulity is right before submission.<BR><BR>Regards
For those that all helped Adele!!<BR><BR>We came to the conlusion that Adele was enrolled on both foundation and Pitmans book keeping!<BR><BR>Pitmans cover P&L accounts!! and basicly I think if Adele could have done the Pitmans Exam in which she was entered for in November then they were no need to be doing the foundation level!<BR><BR>Adele has stopped going to her course because of the tutor and how he treat her! Adele is now awaiting a course refund and is going to try and do home study!!<BR><BR>Therefore Thank you to all that helped! and Adele, we are still here to get you through your course and dont give up!!<BR><BR>Amanda
all i can say like you said.... a MASSIVE MASSIVE THANKYOU to everyone that helped me !!!!!!!!! <BR>if it wasnt for all you lovely people i have met on here i would be very ill i think !!!!!! sad but probebly true. <BR><BR>Me leaving college means i am actually happy again !!!!! <BR><BR>THANKYOU all again<BR><BR>Adele xxx
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